Loretta Napoleoni: The intricate economics of terrorism

by admin on July 30, 2010

www.ted.com Loretta Napoleoni details her rare opportunity to talk to the secretive Italian Red Brigades — an experience that sparked a lifelong interest in terrorism. She gives a behind-the-scenes look at its complex economics, revealing a surprising connection between money laundering and the US Patriot Act.TEDTalks is a daily video podcast of the best talks and performances from the TED Conference, where the world’s leading thinkers and doers give the talk of their lives in 18 minutes. Featured speakers have included Al Gore on climate change, Philippe Starck on design, Jill Bolte Taylor on observing her own stroke, Nicholas Negroponte on One Laptop per Child, Jane Goodall on chimpanzees, Bill Gates on malaria and mosquitoes, Pattie Maes on the “Sixth Sense” wearable tech, and “Lost” producer JJ Abrams on the allure of mystery. TED stands for Technology, Entertainment, Design, and TEDTalks cover these topics as well as science, business, development and the arts. Closed captions and translated subtitles in a variety of languages are now available on TED.com, at http Watch a highlight reel of the Top 10 TEDTalks at www.ted.com

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silentbroadcast July 30, 2010 at 2:42 am

Agreed.

But businessmen get crazy people to blow themselves up by running the systems that deftly guide crazy virgin-seekers.

See the excellent talk by Philip Zimbardo about “The Lucifer Effect”

The bad apples are planted and nurtured by minds at the top, that design the system direct it and turn the apples bad.
Organized crime of very high order

Do see the video

Being crazy is one thing, being twisted evil quite another. Which one is worse, anybody will tell you.

hymnofashes July 30, 2010 at 3:00 am

@silentbroadcast Businessmen don’t blow themselves up for 72 virgins.

Crazy people are really crazy, even if they’re financed by those who are not.

MrDuffy81 July 30, 2010 at 3:48 am

I sense that she smokes. She is short of breath…

MrDuffy81 July 30, 2010 at 4:21 am

This video was sponsored by IBM, and they were used by the german nazis (as opposed to the more recent American nazis) to do inventory, etc. on the prisoners of the concentration camps.

silentbroadcast July 30, 2010 at 5:12 am

I think if Dan Gilbert, Dan Dennett and Loretta Napoleoni sit together on stage and discuss mass psychology, behavior of masses from an evolutionary perspective, and rogue economics from the vast experience of Loretta, between the three of them they will be able to explain every single large-scale crime and global terrorism.
Evolutionary psychology and Mass psychology explain how the public is fooled into believeing that terrorism is by fanatics. It is by businessmen willing to shed blood.

oneki July 30, 2010 at 5:58 am

@EveryHumanBeing – the iran contra might not have been a goood example, but the bay of pigs one surely does qualify. Yes europeans sometimes like to scape goat american as the cause of all evils now that russia is no more, however, we should both agree that american does sponsor terror as long as it is in its interest. As for what i think her point is; i very much agree the difficulty distinguishing money from legit mart from the black mart & simple thngs like our shopping does help blackmarts.

oneki July 30, 2010 at 6:57 am

@EveryHumanBeing I am not sure i understand your argument on how suicide bombings is “extremely cost effective” and cheap. If by cost effective, you mean the likely hood of kiling one person is higher then i might agree,however there is no way i’d accept the cheap argument. these idiots are not just lining up t blow theselves up irrespective of what the media may portray.they are intricately selected, profiled, trained and then in some case left in a dormant cell for years b4 some bcome active.

EveryHumanBeing July 30, 2010 at 7:34 am

The talk was Mostly irrelevant to the kind of terrorism that is occurring today. 1) Suicide bombings are extremely cost effective and cheap.

The rogue economy has a very simple name, its called the black market, and the black market is a natural form of pure capitalism and Drug trafficking is probably the dominant economic factor in the black market.

Her example of the iran contra thing is not state sponsored terrorism, her definitions are so vague. misleading and broad… its pathetic.

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 7:50 am

@newexperiment Yeah, I shouldn’t of tried to explain it all.
I should of just went with my first line of, ‘My buying power got ate up when minimum wage went up’

But at least you know what I mean. Yeah there’s a multitude of reasons that affect the price of goods. Like you said, printing more dollars.. basically you have more dollars competing for the same amount of goods.

newexperiment July 30, 2010 at 8:19 am

Sure, it will still it’s self increase the price of goods a percentage point or two.. but nothing like what we’ve seen in the last two years things have nearly doubled.

What actually happened was the government in charge of the standard currency printed a lot of it, decreasing it’s purchasing power. Then the patriot act made it virtually impossible to use US currency in the black market, and THAT ruined your purchasing power. In Europe min wage and P.P both went up..

newexperiment July 30, 2010 at 8:49 am

That’s some terrible math and logic skills you got there. even 3$ more per hour for 10 employees (30$/hr) means the price of the average purchase, assuming 30 transactions a minute. would have to go up 1$ to compensate.

Assume the average customer pays 20$ worth, the price would go up to 21$.

That’s if we make all the assumptions in YOUR favor.. more realistically: decrease the employees to 6, increase the min wage by only 1$ per hour assume 40 transactions per hour..

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 8:51 am

@MRSketch09 I meant “even if its a job that’s not worth 7 an hour”

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 9:08 am

@MRSketch09
It is pretty horrible, sense there is already a lot of unemployment in the US, because of this recession. So now you have older more experienced people competing with college kids. OF course the older person will get the job.
So basically this is why I say its a punishment.

I hate this text limit…. sorry for posting four times.

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 9:35 am

@MRSketch09
So I had taxes raised on me in a very secretive manner.
So this is why I say its a punishment. Not only this, but unemployment has went up, for a particular demographic, young college students looking to get part time jobs.
contiued

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 10:10 am

@MRSketch09
SO the business had to cover that cost. The cost was passed along in the price of goods. Which cannot be helped because the business is being forced to pay their employees more, even if its a job thats worth 7$ an hr, and they can’t pull that money out of there ass like the federal government can do.

And this is like a web, you can start following it back. Plus to top it all off, since I get paid more by the hour, I get taxed more by the hour as well.

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 11:01 am

@newexperiment
@newexperiment
I’ll speak from experience…
Minimum wage went up twice. I was making above minimum wage by a decent amount. Well once it went up. It ate up my buying power.
You say how is that so? well, I was doing better off, as far as buying my groceries before it went up. I noticed after it went up, I was barely getting by. Prices of groceries had went up.
Because, the people in the groceries store, pay had went up. continued..

oneki July 30, 2010 at 12:00 pm

@jackdent1982 you statement has got to be the most bizarre comment on here.

newexperiment July 30, 2010 at 12:21 pm

Explain what you believe, I’m interested.

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 12:54 pm

@newexperiment
You do realize the minimum wage is more of a punishment than a help right?
If you want me to explain I will.. but if you don’t care.. well that’s fine to.

newexperiment July 30, 2010 at 1:48 pm

They wouldn’t even get 7$/hr if not for the minimum wage.

John1Rawls July 30, 2010 at 2:16 pm

My point is that regardless of the level of government regulation, the logic of capitalism itself entails that corporations must do whatever they can to maximise profit or fail. Profit maximisation without government regulation entails an awful lot of human suffering. It might indeed be more economically efficient, but material wealth is only one small factor in realising human well being.

Hence why I believe whilst capitalism should be maintained, the worst excesses of it should be constrained

worriedaboutlife July 30, 2010 at 2:41 pm

Blah blah blah – got there first, got the copyright, got the technology, got the guns, got the oil, got the attitude, got the world by the balls.. Why Terrorism? Why? Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?Why?

MRSketch09 July 30, 2010 at 2:52 pm

@John1Rawls
“forces even nice business owners to pay as little as humanly possible to the worker”

I think payroll taxes are a big issue. For instance, an employee gets paid minimum wage (7$hr), but its really costing the company 10 dollars or 11 dollars to keep that employee there.(US) Those taxes that the federal/local government take, is literally taking money out of the employees pocket.

Of course, its just one piece of the puzzle. I’m still researching & Learning.

chairde July 30, 2010 at 2:59 pm

I was in the Ardoyne in 1997 on an INA tour. The people were really nice to me. When the GFA came it split the Clan na Gael here in the states. Since that time I have lessened my involvement. I was afraid that there would be a civil war and I would just hate to see that. Have a good Christmas and enjoy your family and friends. Slainte mo cara

cstewart1987 July 30, 2010 at 3:06 pm

I live in Ardoyne, yea i agree with you mate, im not thinking about the man driving the taxi, yea he is paying his 50 quid a week to drive there tho.., the banker that owns the taxi firm are directly funding republican programs,, they make millions per annum and constantly capitolizing, in turn funding the drug shipments and terrorism, i believe the real Ira were Great Rebels or simply humans fighting for their rights, There is none left, i think they where sold out by gangsters,,

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